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Bengals Head Coach Marvin Lewis Discusses Proposed NFL Rule Changes on The RE show – 3/20/15

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THE COACH OF THE
CINCINNATI BENGALS, MARVIN LEWIS
CALLS US FROM ARIZONA.
COACH, THANKS FOR CALLING INTO
THE PROGRAM.
>> GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE YOU?
>> I'M DOING WELL.
SO YOU'RE ALREADY AT THE SITE OF
THE ANNUAL MEETING RIGHT NOW?
>> YEAH.
I'M HERE IN ARIZONA.
AND IT'S GOOD.
THIS IS -- VISITED SOME COLLEGES
ON THE WAY OUT.
BUT YOU GET RIGHT INTO THE
CONTROVERSY RIGHT AWAY, DON'T
YOU?
>> YOU KNOW WHAT, COACH, DEEP
DOWN I'M PART OF THE PAPARAZZI,
YOU KNOW?
AND WE LIKE TO STIR THINGS UP.
BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT GOT SO MANY FANS
TALKING AND RILED UP, ET CETERA,
ET CETERA.
AND WHAT DOES CONSTITUTE A CATCH
AND WHAT DOES NOT.
IS THAT GOING TO BE ON THE TABLE
NEXT WEEK FOR THE OWNERS TO
DISCUSS?
>> WELL, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME
LOOKING AT THOSE PLAYS, YOU
KNOW?
THERE'S PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR
THIS YEAR -- OR A COUPLE THIS
YEAR.
AND IN PREVIOUS YEARS, YOU KNOW,
THEY'RE ALL PART OF -- GO BACK
AND LOOK AT THEM.
I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY CLEAN
UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW,
THE MAIN THING IS FOR THE
RECEIVER IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO
TO THE GROUND, HAND THE BALL TO
THE OFFICIAL.
YOU KNOW?
AND, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THE BALL
TOUCHING THE GROUND AND YOU KNOW
ON REPLAY, YOU KNOW, THE BALL --
AS DEZ IS CLUTCHING IT IT'S ON
THE GROUND.
THAT'S WHY THAT WAS CALLED AN
INCOMPLETE PASS.
AND BUT AGAIN, IT'S A GREAT
ACROBATIC PLAY.
BUT ONE THAT THE BALL
UNFORTUNATELY TOUCHED THE GROUND
ON.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A PRETTY
CLEAN CALL AFTER THAT.
AS SOON AS I SAW THE REPLAY, I
SAID TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE
THERE, I SAID THAT'S INCOMPLETE.
>> SO THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT
BY THE LETTER OF THE LAW, GENE
STERATORE AND HIS CREW NAILED
IT.
AS IT IS WRITTEN IN THE RULE
BOOK, NOT A CATCH.
IT'S AN INCOMPLETE PASS.
THE ONLY ISSUE THOUGH AS I
BROUGHT UP AT THE TIME, I'LL
BRING UP WITH YOU NOW, I'M
WONDERING IF IT WILL BE BROUGHT
UP FOR THE OWNERS TO DISCUS AND
CHANGE, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE DEZ
BRYANT, YOU HAVE AN A.J. GREEN
IN CINCINNATI, BIG, TALL GUYS
FOR WHOM TWO STEPS COULD
CONSTITUTE COVERING EIGHT, TEN
YARDS OF GROUND, THAT IT'S NO
LONGER JUST SOMETHING TO SAY,
BALL'S ON THE GROUND, IT'S
TOUCHING THE GROUND.
THE COMPLETION OF THE CATCH
COULD GO THE ENTIRE CHAINS OF A
FIRST DOWN.
SO MY QUESTION IS WHY NOT JUST
HAVE IT TWO STEPS -- AS LONG AS
THERE ARE TWO FEET ON THE GROUND
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU GO TO
THE GROUND AND IF IT DOES, THEN
IT'S A LOOSE BALL.
>> YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD STILL
OPEN UP TO OBJECTIVITY.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD -- YOU
KNOW, YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS
AS BRIGHT LINE AS YOU CAN.
AND THEN IT WOULD GET INTO THE
DEBATE OF ONE OR TWO STEPS
BECAUSE FOR THE OFFICIAL WHO'S
GOT TO MAKE THIS CALL IN
REALTIME THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
YOU KNOW, WITH HIGH-DEFINITION
TELEVISION, EVERYTHING WE HAVE
SEEN RIGHT NOW, IT'S REALLY PUT
A LOT OF THESE THINGS UNDER A
HEAVIER SCRUTINY BECAUSE OF THE
ABILITY TO SLOW IT DOWN, FRAME
BY FRAME BY FRAME.
AND IT REALLY MAKES IT HARD, BUT
I WOULD TELL YOU THAT ALL THE
TIME WE SPENT LOOKING AT PLAYS
AND SO FORTH, OFFICIALS GET
THESE BANG BANG VERY QUICK CALLS
RIGHT WAY MORE THAN THEY DO EVER
WRONG.
BUT IN THE CONTINUING THING FOR
THE LEAGUE IS TO CONTINUE TO TRY
TO EDUCATE THEM AS MUCH AS WE
CAN AND TRY TO KEEP BRIGHT LINE
STANDARDS AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO
TAKE THE GRAY AREA OUT OF THE
THINGS.
>> SO DO YOU THINK NEXT WEEK AT
SOME POINT WITH ALL 32 TEAMS AND
MEMBERSHIP AND OWNERS IN THE
ROOM THERE WILL BE A FEW MINUTES
FOR IT TO BE DISCUSSED?
WILL IT ACTUALLY HAPPEN?
>> WELL, IT WILL BE DISCUSSED
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN
BROUGHT UP AS AN ISSUE.
SO IT WILL BE DISCUSSED THE FACT
THAT WE HAVE REVIEWED IT AND SO
FORTH AND WHAT OUR FINDINGS ARE.
AND LIKE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WON'T
GET AGREEMENT.
I'M SURE THE PEOPLE FROM DALLAS
YOU KNOW, JERRY AND STEPHEN WHO
SERVES ON THE COMMITTEE WITH ME,
STEPHEN SAW IT A DIFFERENT WAY.
NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
>> MARVIN LEWIS JOINING ME HERE
ON "THE RICH EISEN SHOW."
ALSO NEXT WEEK, A LOT INVOLVING
INSTANT REPLAY WILL BE
DISCUSSED.
WHICH OF THE CONVERSATIONS WHERE
EVERYTHING IS REVIEWABLE, IS A
PROPOSAL THAT'S ON THE TABLE.
ANOTHER ONE THAT PERSONAL FOULS
ARE REVIEWABLE.
BUT BY COACHES CHALLENGE.
THEN THAT'S ONE THAT SAYS
PERSONAL FOULS ARE REVIEWABLE
AUTOMATICALLY, THAT THE BOOTH
WILL BUZZ DOWN AND SAY LET'S
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS
HELMET-TO-HELMET TO SEE IF THEY
ACTUALLY DID COLLIDE AS OPPOSED
TO HELMET TOUCHING A PART OF THE
CHEST.
WHICH ONE DO YOU UNDERSTAND HAS
A CHANCE OF ACTUALLY BEING
PASSED?
>> WELL, MORE OF WHAT YOU'RE
JUST TALKING ABOUT THE LAST ONE,
DEFENSELESS PLAYERS AND SO
FORTH.
SO THAT STANDARD COULD POSSIBLY
BE IN THE REVIEW.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT WE REALLY
LOOKED HARD AT THIS AND IT STILL
GETS INTO THIS SAME THING.
YOU KNOW, EVERY GAME WE PLAY
SOME GAMES HAVE MORE CAMERA
ANGLES THAN OTHERS.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO
PLEASE EVERYBODY WITH THE
OUTCOME.
AND AGAIN, THEY DO A VERY GOOD
JOB.
WE JUST WANT TO CONTINUALLY, YOU
KNOW, GET OUR OFFICIALS BETTER
AND BETTER.
SO I DON'T WANT TO STEAL
ANYBODY'S THUNDER.
JUST WATCH IT ON THE NETWORK TO
SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
>> OKAY.
I'M JUST TRYING TO PICK YOUR
BRAIN A LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHICH
ONE YOU WOULD BE WHISPERING IN
THE EAR OF MR. BROWN TO SAY
LET'S VOTE ON THIS ONE.
>> WELL, MR. BROWN IS NOT FOR
REPLAY AT ANY POINT.
>> I KNOW THAT.
THAT'S TRUE.
THAT IS TRUE.
I DO REMEMBER ONE OF THE FIRST
ANNUAL MEETINGS THAT I ATTENDED
IF NOT FIRST ONE FOR THE
NETWORK, IN '04.
HE HAD TO BE CONVINCED TO KEEP
REPLAY PERMANENT.
THAT WAS EVEN SOMETHING HE WAS
NOT EVEN CONSIDERING, COACH.
>> HE'S OLD SCHOOL.
HE DOESN'T WANT THINGS TO OCCUR
TO SLOW DOWN THE FLOW OF THE
GAME.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT HE
BELIEVES AND HE'S GOING ON THE
CONSISTENT IN THAT BELIEF I'LL
TELL YOU THAT.
>> I'M SURE HE LOVES THE COLTS'
PROPOSAL IF YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL ON
A TWO-POINT ATTEMPT YOU GET A
SHOT TO GET A NINTH POINT ON THE
PLAY, HE MUST LOVE THAT ONE.
>> YEAH.
NOT ONE OF THE FAVORITES.
>> I MEAN, THAT'S AN INTERESTING
ONE.
THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER ONE WHERE
THE BEARS ARE PRESENTING A RULE
CHANGE TO AWARD POSSESSION TO
BOTH TEAMS IN OVERTIME.
>> YEAH.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE THAT ONE,
COACH?
>> YEAH, WELL, WE KIND OF HAVE
BEEN THROUGH THAT.
YOU KNOW, I LOVE WHAT WE HAVE
NOW.
I THINK I WAS THE ONE TO VOTE
AGAINST WHAT WE HAD NOW, THE
COMPETITION COMMITTEE.
BUT I GUESS THERE ARE TWO OF US
MAYBE.
BUT EITHER WAY IT IS WHAT WE ARE
RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T THINK -- I THINK YOU
HAVE TO PLAY DEFENSE.
BOTH SIDES GOT TO PLAY.
WE'RE AWARDED TO HAVE POSSESSION
RIGHT NOW UNLESS THEY SCORE A
TOUCHDOWN.
IF YOU CAN'T KEEP THEM FROM
SCORING A TOUCHDOWN YOU DON'T
DESERVE THE BALL TOO.
>> SO YOU'RE OLD SCHOOL AS WELL.
>> I'M OLD SCHOOL AS WELL.
>> DO YOU LIKE ANYTHING BEING
PROPOSED, COACH?
>> I THINK WE'LL TALK A LOT
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS TO DO
WITH PLAYER SAFETY AND
CONTINUALLY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE
EXPAND SOME OF THE LOOKS AT
THOSE THINGS.
CONTINUE TO MAKE THE GAME SAFER
AND SAFER.
WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING OVER THE
LAST PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE
SEASONS IS MADE A -- HAS MADE A
HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THE COACHING
AND SO FORTH.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO REINFORCE
THOSE THINGS BUT, YOU KNOW,
YEAH, THERE'S NOT MUCH, YOU
KNOW, THAT I'M FOR RIGHT NOW
THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE HOW
THINGS COME OUT NEXT WEEK WHEN
ALL 32 HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
VOTE.
>> AGAIN, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED
THAT IT'S BEEN OVER THE LAST
SEVERAL YEARS YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT PLAYER SAFETY.
OF COURSE, THERE'S A NEW FOUND
FRESH DISCUSSION ON IT BECAUSE
OF CHRIS BORLAND'S RETIREMENT AT
AGE 24 TO PREVENT HIM FROM BEING
TAKING A HIGH RISK JOB
CONTINUOUSLY IN THE MIDDLE OF A
DEFENSE IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL
LEAGUE.
COACH, WHERE DID -- WHERE DOES
THAT PLAY INTO WHAT THE
COMPETITION COMMITTEE IS WORKING
ON?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, RICH, THAT'S
REALLY -- YOU KNOW, I'LL TELL
YOU WHAT, THIS MAN -- THIS YOUNG
MAN IS A GOOD FOOTBALL PLAYER.
HE'S PLAYED AT A HIGH LEVEL AND
HE DID A NICE JOB THIS YEAR, YOU
KNOW, FRANKLY IT'S A SHAME.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, EACH PLAYER
HAS TO ASSUME THE RISK THAT THEY
ASSUME AND MAKE THE DECISION AS
THEY FEEL BASED ON THEIR FUTURE.
SO I'M A LITTLE -- AS I SAY, I'M
DISAPPOINTED FOR THE GAME, FOR
THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE,
THAT A GUY LIKE CHRIS, YOU KNOW,
DECIDES TO RETIRE.
BUT I UNDERSTAND IT.
AND EACH GUY HAS TO DO THAT AND
ON THEIR OWN VOLITION ALL THE
TIME.
BUT, YEAH, THERE'S NO QUESTION.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
GOING -- YOU KNOW, THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO
AVOID AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
>> YEAH.
THE LEAGUE PUT OUT A STATEMENT
SAYING THAT THE GAME HAS NEVER
BEEN SAFER, CONCUSSIONS HAVE
GONE DOWN THREE YEARS IN A ROW.
25% LAST YEAR ALONE.
BEFORE I LET YOU GO, YOU KNOW,
THERE ARE MANY FANS WHO ARE
SKEPTICAL OF THOSE NUMBERS AND
FOR SOMEBODY LIKE YOURSELF WHO
IS TRULY AT THE FRONT LINES IN
THE COMPETITION COMMITTEE AND ON
THE SIDELINES OF WHAT THE LEAGUE
IS ATTEMPTING TO DO TO MAKE THE
GAME SAFER I'D LOVE TO GIVE YOU
THE FLOOR TO LET FANS KNOW WHAT
YOU ARE DOING AS PART OF A
COLLECTIVE EFFORT ON THIS FRONT.
>> WELL, RICH, I MEAN, THE DATA
IT'S PROVEN AND IF YOU LOOK AT
THE VIDEO OF OUR TEAMS AND SO
FORTH, IT'S REALLY SHOWING UP.
THE CHANGING OF THE TECHNIQUES,
YOU KNOW?
AT SOME POINT IT GOT AWAY FROM
US WHERE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
AND THE LIGHTWEIGHT EQUIPMENT
AND SO FORTH, OUR HELMETS AND
SHOULDER PADS AND EVERYTHING HAS
GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GOT
AWAY FROM FOOTBALL THE WAY IT
WAS TAUGHT BACK WHEN, YOU
KNOW -- I AGE MYSELF BUT WHEN I
STARTED TO PLAY BACK WHEN I WAS
7 OR 8 YEARS OLD, BACK IN THE
1960s.
'65 OR SO I GUESS IT WAS.
IT'S REALLY CHANGED A LOT.
SO WE HAD GONE BACK AND LOOKED
AT THE STANDARDS AND SO FORTH
AND HOW WE COACH IT AND SO
FORTH, AND REINFORCE IT WITH THE
PLAYERS.
WE ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE VIDEO, YOU
CAN SEE IT IN THE NUMBER OF THE
CALLS AN AND SO FORTH.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK HARD AT
THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRESSING IT DOWN
WITH HEADS UP FOOTBALL.
DOWN IN THE YOUTH COACHING AND
SO FORTH.
IN THE YOUTH LEAGUES.
AND IN THE REINFORCEMENT THROUGH
HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE.
>> COACH, THANKS FOR TAKING THE
TIME.
>> I APPRECIATE IT.